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Enclosure C

¡REC?

C. O.

545

1140

REC 21 JAN 90

The Daily Press.

ITI

HONGKONG, DECEMBER 19th, 1894.

HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

A meeting of the Legislative Council was held yesterday. There were present:---

His Excellency the Governor, Sir WILLIAM ROBINSON, K.C.M.G.

Hon. J. STEWART LOCKHART, Acting Colonial Secretary.

Hon. W. M. GOODMAN, Attorney-General.

Hon. N. G. MITCHELL-INNES, Colonial Treasurer.

Hon. A. COOPER, Director of Public Works.

Hon. R. M. RUMSEY, Harbour Master.

Hon. C. P. CHATER.

Hon. Ho KAI.

Hon. J. J. KESWICK.

Hon. E. R. BELILIOS, C.M.G.

Hon. A. McCONACHIE.

Mr. J. G. T. BUCKLE, Acting Clerk of Councils.

MINUTES.

The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed.

FINANCE.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the table a financial minute and moved that it be referred to the Finance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried.

THE APPROPRIATION BILL 1895.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--I have the honour to move the second reading of the Bill entitled an Ordinance to apply a sum not exceeding $2,420,501 to the Public Service of the year 1895. At a recent meeting of the Council your Excellency explained generally the financial position of the colony and of the estimates of revenue and expenditure for 1895. In view of that explanation and of the fact that the details are fully set forth in the papers which have been in the hands of hon. members for some time I do not propose to detain the Council with any remarks now. When this Bill has been read a second time I intend to move that it be referred to the Finance Committee. When it is considered there I will be happy to answer any questions hon. members may ask and to give any information that may be desired.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Bill read a second time and referred to the Finance Committee.

FINANCE COMMITTEE.

A meeting of the Finance Committee was held after the Council meeting, the Acting Colonial Secretary presiding.

DEFICIENCY IN A POSTAL AGENT'S ACCOUNTS

The CHAIRMAN--The first minute I have to lay before the Committee is one in which the Governor recommends the Council to vote the sum of $940.05, the amount of deficiency in the accounts of the late postal agent at Ningpo, now deceased. I regret to say the late postal agent at Ningpo died some time ago and there was a deficiency in his accounts. I am glad, however, to be able to tell you a letter has been received from Mr. Playfair, the Consul at Ningpo, who has been taking very active steps on behalf of the Hongkong Government informing the Government we may recover nearly the whole, if not the whole, of this amount. I hope therefore the full amount will not be required.

Hon. Ho Kai--Are the postal agents' securities secured?

The CHAIRMAN--I understand they are not secured in any way.

Hon. Ho Kai--Surely if they have large sums of money passing through their hands they ought to give some security; otherwise, what would prevent a repetition of this?

Hon. C. P. CHATER--Are no steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of such deficiencies?

The CHAIRMAN--The question of the postal agents at the treaty ports is now under the consideration of the Government, and when it has been decided I will inform you what steps have been taken. In the meantime I ask you to pass this vote.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried.

THE APPROPRIATION BILL, 1895.

The CHAIRMAN--We now come to the consideration of the Appropriation Bill for 1895. I propose in accordance with the precedents of former years to take each vote of the Bill in succession, and if any hon. member has any question to ask or desires any information I shall be very glad to supply it.

The Public Debt.

In connection with the vote of $311,716, charge on account of public debt, the CHAIRMAN said that if they referred to page 7 of the estimates they would see "Sinking Fund." The Treasurer had suggested that instead of "Sinking Fund" it should be termed "Expenses in connection with payment of interest." If hon. members had no objection it was proposed to make that change.

Agreed.

Public Works Department.

The vote under the head of Public Works Department was increased by $1,200, the salary of a clerk which had been accidentally omitted. The salary of the correspondence clerk was formerly $2,400, but a vacancy having occurred it was proposed to fill it at a salary of $1,200.

Postal Transit Charges.

The CHAIRMAN said, in connection with the Post Office vote, it had been suggested that the item "Refund of postage to London, France, Italy, and other countries" should be altered to "Transit charges, etc.," which explained better what the money was really spent on.

Carried.

The Military Contribution

The amount asked for under the head of Military Expenditure was $396,000.

Hon. C. P. CHATER--I should like to have a little information on this subject. I think the matter was brought before the Council about this time last year by the hon. member opposite (Hon. J. J. KESWICK) and afterwards by myself, and I think it was then suggested the Governor should write and suggest to the Secretary of State a reconsideration of the amount of this Military Contribution. The amount was increased from £20,000 to £40,000, and owing to the depreciation of exchange the amount in dollars has steadily grown; and now I see another increase of $64,000 for 1895. I should like to know what has been done in the matter. I think we were informed that His Excellency had written a despatch on the subject, but I do not recollect having heard of any answer being received, or at any rate given to us. That being the case, unless we are assured the matter is having the consideration of the Secretary of State, I for one am not prepared to vote this amount.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--His Excellency has, I know, made more than one representation to the Secretary of State on this subject, but no definite decision has yet been received.

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Enclosure C ¡REC? C. O. 545 1140 REC 21 JAN 90 The Daily Press. ITI HONGKONG, DECEMBER 19th, 1894. HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. A meeting of the Legislative Council was held yesterday. There were present:--- His Excellency the Governor, Sir WILLIAM ROBINSON, K.C.M.G. Hon. J. STEWART LOCKHART, Acting Colonial Secretary. Hon. W. M. GOODMAN, Attorney-General. Hon. N. G. MITCHELL-INNES, Colonial Treasurer. Hon. A. COOPER, Director of Public Works. Hon. R. M. RUMSEY, Harbour Master. Hon. C. P. CHATER. Hon. Ho KAI. Hon. J. J. KESWICK. Hon. E. R. BELILIOS, C.M.G. Hon. A. McCONACHIE. Mr. J. G. T. BUCKLE, Acting Clerk of Councils. MINUTES. The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed. FINANCE. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the table a financial minute and moved that it be referred to the Finance Committee. The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried. THE APPROPRIATION BILL 1895. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--I have the honour to move the second reading of the Bill entitled an Ordinance to apply a sum not exceeding $2,420,501 to the Public Service of the year 1895. At a recent meeting of the Council your Excellency explained generally the financial position of the colony and of the estimates of revenue and expenditure for 1895. In view of that explanation and of the fact that the details are fully set forth in the papers which have been in the hands of hon. members for some time I do not propose to detain the Council with any remarks now. When this Bill has been read a second time I intend to move that it be referred to the Finance Committee. When it is considered there I will be happy to answer any questions hon. members may ask and to give any information that may be desired. The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Bill read a second time and referred to the Finance Committee. FINANCE COMMITTEE. A meeting of the Finance Committee was held after the Council meeting, the Acting Colonial Secretary presiding. DEFICIENCY IN A POSTAL AGENT'S ACCOUNTS The CHAIRMAN--The first minute I have to lay before the Committee is one in which the Governor recommends the Council to vote the sum of $940.05, the amount of deficiency in the accounts of the late postal agent at Ningpo, now deceased. I regret to say the late postal agent at Ningpo died some time ago and there was a deficiency in his accounts. I am glad, however, to be able to tell you a letter has been received from Mr. Playfair, the Consul at Ningpo, who has been taking very active steps on behalf of the Hongkong Government informing the Government we may recover nearly the whole, if not the whole, of this amount. I hope therefore the full amount will not be required. Hon. Ho Kai--Are the postal agents' securities secured? The CHAIRMAN--I understand they are not secured in any way. Hon. Ho Kai--Surely if they have large sums of money passing through their hands they ought to give some security; otherwise, what would prevent a repetition of this? Hon. C. P. CHATER--Are no steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of such deficiencies? The CHAIRMAN--The question of the postal agents at the treaty ports is now under the consideration of the Government, and when it has been decided I will inform you what steps have been taken. In the meantime I ask you to pass this vote. The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried. THE APPROPRIATION BILL, 1895. The CHAIRMAN--We now come to the consideration of the Appropriation Bill for 1895. I propose in accordance with the precedents of former years to take each vote of the Bill in succession, and if any hon. member has any question to ask or desires any information I shall be very glad to supply it. The Public Debt. In connection with the vote of $311,716, charge on account of public debt, the CHAIRMAN said that if they referred to page 7 of the estimates they would see "Sinking Fund." The Treasurer had suggested that instead of "Sinking Fund" it should be termed "Expenses in connection with payment of interest." If hon. members had no objection it was proposed to make that change. Agreed. Public Works Department. The vote under the head of Public Works Department was increased by $1,200, the salary of a clerk which had been accidentally omitted. The salary of the correspondence clerk was formerly $2,400, but a vacancy having occurred it was proposed to fill it at a salary of $1,200. Postal Transit Charges. The CHAIRMAN said, in connection with the Post Office vote, it had been suggested that the item "Refund of postage to London, France, Italy, and other countries" should be altered to "Transit charges, etc.," which explained better what the money was really spent on. Carried. The Military Contribution The amount asked for under the head of Military Expenditure was $396,000. Hon. C. P. CHATER--I should like to have a little information on this subject. I think the matter was brought before the Council about this time last year by the hon. member opposite (Hon. J. J. KESWICK) and afterwards by myself, and I think it was then suggested the Governor should write and suggest to the Secretary of State a reconsideration of the amount of this Military Contribution. The amount was increased from £20,000 to £40,000, and owing to the depreciation of exchange the amount in dollars has steadily grown; and now I see another increase of $64,000 for 1895. I should like to know what has been done in the matter. I think we were informed that His Excellency had written a despatch on the subject, but I do not recollect having heard of any answer being received, or at any rate given to us. That being the case, unless we are assured the matter is having the consideration of the Secretary of State, I for one am not prepared to vote this amount. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--His Excellency has, I know, made more than one representation to the Secretary of State on this subject, but no definite decision has yet been received.
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Enclosure C ¡REC? C. O. 545 1140 REC 21 AN 90 The Daily Press. ITI HONGKONG, DECEMBER 19я, 1894. HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. A meeting of the Legislative Conncil was held yesterday. There were present:--- His Excellency the Governor, Sir WILLIAM ROBINSON, K C.M.G. Hon. J... STEWART LOCKHART, Acting Colonial Secretary. Hon. W. M. GOODMAN, Attorney-General. Hon. N. G. MITCHELL-INNES, Colonial Treasurer. Hon. A. COOPER, Director of Public Works. Hon. R. M. RUMSEY, Harbour Master. Hon. C. P. CHATER. Hon. Ho KAI. Hon. J. J. Kaskick. Hon. E. R. BELILIOS, C.M.G. Hon. A. MoCONACHIM. Mr, J. G. T. BUCKLE, Acting Clerk of Councils. MINUTES. The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed. FINANCE. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the table a financial ainute and moved that it be referred to the Finance Committee. The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried, THE APPROPRIATION BILL 1875. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--I have the honour to move the second reading of the Bill entitled an Ordinance to apply a sum not exooeding $2.420,501 to the Public Service of. the year 1895. At a recent mesting of the Council your Excellency explained generally the financial position of the colony and of the esti- mates of revenue and expenditure for 1895. Io view of that explanation and of the fact that the details are fully set forth in the papers which bave been in the hands of boo. members for some time I do not propose to detain the Council with any remarks sow. When this Bill has been read a second time I intend to move that it be referred to the Finance Committee. When it is considered there I will be happy to answer: any questions hon. members may ask and to gire. any information that may be desired. The COLONIAL TREASURER secondod. Bill read & socond time and referred to the Finance Committee. FINANCE COMMITTE. A meeting of the Pinse Committee was held after the Council meeting, the Acting Colonial Secretary presiding. DEFICIENCY IN À POSTAL agent's acuoUNTS The CHAIRMAN-Flo first minute I har to Iay before the Committee is one in which the Governor racoramsuds the Council to vote the sam of $940.05, the amount of deficiency in the accounts of the lato postal agent at Ningpo, now deceased. I regret to say the late postal [agent at Ningpo died Some time ago aud there was a deficacy in his accounts. I am glad, however, id be able to tell you a latter bus boon received from Mr. Playfair. the Consul at Ningpo, who has boon taking very active steps on behalf of the Hongkong Gov-en- ment informing the Government we may recover nearly ten whole, if not the whole, of this amount T hope therefore the fall amount will not be required. } Hou: £1. Hog Ho Kar-s rot a postal agent secured? The CHAIRMAN-understand they are not secured in any way. Hon. Do Ka-Bu) surely if tboy bavo large sums of money passing through their hands they ought to give some envity; otherwise, what would prevent a repetition of this ? Hon C. P. CHAT-Are no steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of such deficiencies P The CHAIRMAN✈Tho question of the postal agents at the treaty ports is now ander the con- sideration of the Government, and when it bas besu decided I will (aform you what stops have been taken. In the meantime I ask you to pass This vote. * COLONIAL Th Carrio THE A REASURER SSConded, *PPROPRIATION BILL, 1895. The CHAIRMAN sideration of the Apr We now come to the con- ropriation Bill for 1895. with the precedents of tom of the Bill in has any ques. I propose in accordance former years to take each . succession, and if any hon. membr. tion to ask or desires any inform tio... very glad to supply it. The Public Debt. - I will be In connection with the rate of 3114,716, charge on account of public debt, the CHAIRMAN said that if they referred to page 7 of the estimates they would see "Sinking Fand." The Trea surer had suggested that instead of "Sinking Fund" it should be termed "Exponses in con- section with payment of interest." If hon. members had no objection it was proposeți to make that change. Agreed. Public Works Department. The vote under the head of Public Works Department was increased by $1,200, the salary of à clark which had been accidentang omitted The salary of the correspondance clerk was formerly $2,400, but a vacancy having occurred it was proposed to fill it at a salary of $1,200. Postal Transit Charges. The CHAIRMAN said, in conuestion with the Post Office vote, it had been suggested that the item "R-fund of postage to London, France, Italy, and other countries" should be altered to [* Transit charges, eto," which explained better what the money was really spent on. Carried. The Military Contribution The amount ask for under the head of Mili tary Expenditure was 3396,000. Hoa. C. P CHATER-I should like to bare a little information on this subject. I think the matter was brought before the Council about this time last year by the ben, member opposite ¡¡Hon. J. J. Keswick) an1 afterwards by imyself, and I think it was then suggested the Goror- nor should write and suggest to the Secretary of State & reconsideration of the amount of this! | Military Coutribution. The amount was idoreas- ed from £20,010 to £40,000, and owing to the | depreciation of exchange the amount in dollars has steadily grown; and now I see another in- crease of $64,000 for 1895. I should like to know what has been done in the matter. I think were informed that His Excellency had written a despatch on the enbject, but I do not; recollect having heard of any answer belug received, or at any rate giren to us. That being the case, unless we are assured the matter is having the consideration of the Secretary of State, I for one am not propared to vote this Wa anto. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-His Excellency has, I know, made more than one re- | presentation to the Sasretary of State on this Isubject, but no definite decision has yet been received
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Enclosure C

¡REC?

C. O.

545

1140

REC 21 AN 90

The Daily Press.

ITI

HONGKONG, DECEMBER 19я, 1894.

HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

A meeting of the Legislative Conncil was held yesterday. There were present:---

His Excellency the Governor, Sir WILLIAM ROBINSON, K C.M.G.

Hon. J... STEWART LOCKHART, Acting Colonial Secretary.

Hon. W. M. GOODMAN, Attorney-General. Hon. N. G. MITCHELL-INNES, Colonial Treasurer.

Hon. A. COOPER, Director of Public Works. Hon. R. M. RUMSEY, Harbour Master.

Hon. C. P. CHATER.

Hon. Ho KAI.

Hon. J. J. Kaskick.

Hon. E. R. BELILIOS, C.M.G.

Hon. A. MoCONACHIM.

Mr, J. G. T. BUCKLE, Acting Clerk of Councils.

MINUTES.

The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed.

FINANCE.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the table a financial ainute and moved that it be referred to the Finance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried,

THE APPROPRIATION BILL 1875. The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--I have the honour to move the second reading of the Bill entitled an Ordinance to apply a sum not exooeding $2.420,501 to the Public Service of. the year 1895. At a recent mesting of the Council your Excellency explained generally the financial position of the colony and of the esti- mates of revenue and expenditure for 1895. Io view of that explanation and of the fact that the details are fully set forth in the papers which bave been in the hands of boo. members for some time I do not propose to detain the Council with any remarks sow. When this Bill has been read a second time I intend to move that it be referred to the Finance Committee. When

it is considered there I will be happy to answer: any questions hon. members may ask and to gire. any information that may be desired.

The COLONIAL TREASURER secondod. Bill read & socond time and referred to the Finance Committee.

FINANCE COMMITTE.

A meeting of the Pinse Committee was held after the Council meeting, the Acting Colonial Secretary presiding.

DEFICIENCY IN À POSTAL agent's acuoUNTS

The CHAIRMAN-Flo first minute I har to Iay before the Committee is one in which the Governor racoramsuds the Council to vote the sam of $940.05, the amount of deficiency in the accounts of the lato postal agent at Ningpo, now deceased. I regret to say the late postal [agent at Ningpo died Some time

ago

aud there was a deficacy in his accounts. I am glad, however, id be able to tell you a latter bus boon received from Mr. Playfair. the Consul at Ningpo, who has boon taking very active steps on behalf of the Hongkong Gov-en- ment informing the Government we may recover nearly ten whole, if not the whole, of this amount T hope therefore the fall amount will not be required. }

Hou:

£1.

Hog Ho Kar-s rot a postal agent

secured?

The CHAIRMAN-understand they are not secured in any way.

Hon. Do Ka-Bu) surely if tboy bavo large sums of money passing through their hands they ought to give some envity; otherwise, what would prevent a repetition of this ?

Hon C. P. CHAT-Are no steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of such deficiencies P

The CHAIRMAN✈Tho question of the postal agents at the treaty ports is now ander the con- sideration of the Government, and when it bas besu decided I will (aform you what stops have been taken. In the meantime I ask you to pass This vote.

* COLONIAL

Th

Carrio

THE A

REASURER SSConded,

*PPROPRIATION BILL, 1895.

The CHAIRMAN

sideration of the Apr

We now come to the con- ropriation Bill for 1895. with the precedents of tom of the Bill in has any ques.

I propose in accordance

former years to take each . succession, and if any hon. membr. tion to ask or desires any inform tio... very glad to supply it.

The Public Debt.

- I will be

In connection with the rate of 3114,716, charge on account of public debt, the CHAIRMAN said that if they referred to page 7 of the estimates they would see "Sinking Fand." The Trea surer had suggested that instead of "Sinking Fund" it should be termed "Exponses in con- section with payment of interest." If hon. members had no objection it was proposeți to make that change.

Agreed.

Public Works Department.

The vote under the head of Public Works Department was increased by $1,200, the salary of à clark which had been accidentang omitted The salary of the correspondance clerk was formerly $2,400, but a vacancy having occurred it was proposed to fill it at a salary of $1,200.

Postal Transit Charges.

The CHAIRMAN said, in conuestion with the Post Office vote, it had been suggested that the item "R-fund of postage to London, France, Italy, and other countries" should be altered to [* Transit charges, eto," which explained better

what the money was really spent on.

Carried.

The Military Contribution The amount ask for under the head of Mili tary Expenditure was 3396,000.

Hoa. C. P CHATER-I should like to bare a little information on this subject. I think the matter was brought before the Council about this time last year by the ben, member opposite ¡¡Hon. J. J. Keswick) an1 afterwards by imyself, and I think it was then suggested the Goror- nor should write and suggest to the Secretary of State & reconsideration of the amount of this! | Military Coutribution. The amount was idoreas- ed from £20,010 to £40,000, and owing to the | depreciation of exchange the amount in dollars has steadily grown; and now I see another in- crease of $64,000 for 1895. I should like to know what has been done in the matter. I think were informed that His Excellency had written a despatch on the enbject, but I do not; recollect having heard of any answer belug received, or at any rate giren to us. That being the case, unless we are assured the matter is having the consideration of the Secretary of State, I for one am not propared to vote this

Wa

anto.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-His Excellency has, I know, made more than one re- | presentation to the Sasretary of State on this Isubject, but no definite decision has yet been

received

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